The Great Gardens Of Great Britain by Andrew Babicz, March's meeting

 

Our speaker for the March meeting was Andrew Babicz on the Topic of 'The Great Gardens Of Great Britain'.

Andrew told us a little of his background. His dad came from Poland and was a head gardener. Andrew learnt his gardening from his dad since the age of 5 and when he was leaving school a teacher helped him secure an apprenticeship with the National Trust  at Inverewe Gardens from where he then moved to RHS Wisley.  

The public visit these large properties for a variety of reasons; the big house, the gardens or the education.  However, Andrew interspersed his talk with lots of humour and particularly jokes about his wife who reluctantly visits the gardens with him, but then takes herself off to the cafe for tea and cake.

Andrew's talk included pictures and useful snippets of information about what was particularly outstanding or notable at some of the properties that were located around England and Scotland (Wales is going to appear in his next talk).

Hampton Court has a wonderful display of tulips when in season. Great Dixter is famous for its quintessentially English gardens. Hyde Hall in Essex has a good example of a dry garden that is never watered.  Benmore in Edinburgh has a fantastic monkey puzzle tree.  Geoff Hamilton's garden (A former Gardeners World garden) is divided into rooms so it is easy to take inspiration for our smaller gardens.  RHS Harlow Carr has the famous 'Betty's Tea Rooms' within the  gardens. Kew Gardens is vast but quite expensive to visit. Levens Hall (south of Cumbria) has fantastic topiary.  Edinburgh Botanical Garden has fantastic glass houses.  The Thames Barrier Park had originally been planted with hedges cut to shapes to signify waves.  Tottenham Hotspur Football Ground, very close to us, has very good gardens if you get the opportunity to visit.

Andrew included some interesting facts in his talk that we may not know. The Monkey puzzle tree is so named as they are so spikey it is difficult for the monkey's to climb them. In Chilli they eat the stalks of the Gunera plant as a vegetable.  It is a type of rhubarb. You may recognise the Gunera as the enormous leaved plant that grows in bog gardens or at the side of very large ponds.  In the UK we sweeten rhubarb and have it as a desert but it is actually a vegetable.  In the Edinburgh Botanical garden is a lily which is carnivorous. The flower opens white, the fly goes inside to get the pollen, it closes round the fly and sinks below the water but all the time protecting the fly in an air bubble.  The fly buzzes around madly and in the process pollinates the lily. The following day the flower raises to the surface, opens up and the fly escapes but the flower is now pink.

It was a very interesting and friendly talk and we look forward to part 2 in the future.  Andrew told us that sadly garden magazines are no longer paying garden writers for their articles.  They use 'influencers' who really don't have the experience but make a career out of publicity.

Shroedinger's Garden, Guy Deakins February's zoom talk.

In February 2025 we hold our monthly meeting on Zoom. The weather can often be poor and it is also a chance for us to share our meeting with Tendershoots. In exchange we are entitled to attend the talks that are arranged by other clubs in the Tendershoots network. This is the website address for Tendershoots if you would like to see what else is on offer: https://tendershoots.uk/ Check out the ‘Programme’ tab. Some talks are recorded and available to watch on catch-up.

Guy Deakins was our speaker who spoke to us on the topic of ‘Shroedinger’s Garden’. Shroedinger came up with the philosophy of ‘If you can’t see something it doesn’t exist’. Guy himself had studied psychology but now lectures at Capel Manor Horticultural College (our nearest open garden which many of you have probably visited). Guy’s talk was about the psychology of gardens, how we look at a garden and what we see because of the way we look at the garden.

He told us that different parts of our brains have different memory stores and we see how we are taught to see so we use preconceptions. The famous historic landscape gardener, Capability Brown arranged spaces to get us to see his gardens as landscapes, but they were an illusion. Gertrude Jekyll, another famous garden designer worked with Lutyens. He used mathematics to design the structure of gardens while Jekyll who apparently was very short sighted and could hardly see further than a few inches in front of her used tone and colour to design the planting.

Some psychological thoughts on gardens. If you are trying to hide something e.g. an ugly wall, then you are denying the reality. You should try and work with it (we may not agree). Japenese gardens are designed for the soul and the rocks are there as they are said to have a soul The more unhappy you feel the more you will seek unhappiness whereas in reverse if you feel happy you seek more happiness.

It was a very different type of talk. Thought provoking. It may make you look at your garden or any garden you visit in a different way.

 

 

Christmas Social/The Christmas Garden, talk December's meeting

For our December meeting this year we did our Christmas social slightly differently. Our falling   attendance numbers at meetings and the uncertainty of the weather at that time of year mean that we decided not to have an entertainer, but instead we had one of our favoured speakers to give us a talk on ‘The Christmas Garden’. This was followed by an opportunity for members to get together and mix and socialise while enjoying a bring and share buffet. Our thanks to Veronica Perry for suggesting the idea of the shared buffet and to everyone who contributed by bringing a dish or two.

The talk was an enjoyable tour of both indoor and outdoor plants that may grow and flower at Christmas, but also those that bloom at other times of the year but strangely have names suggesting Christmas. So we have the Christmas Rose (it’s a hellebore), Christmas box (Sarcococca), Christmas cactus (Indoor plant) and Poinsettia which do bloom at Christmas time. But then we have other plants like the fuschia ‘Hollys Beauty’ and ‘Santa Claus’, Tulip ‘Christmas Dream’ that as we all know don’t flower at Christmas at all. One of the most interesting facts that I learned was that in their natural habitat of Mexico and Central America Poinsettia’s can grow into 12 foot/small trees. In the UK they are sold as house plants that most people find difficult to care for after Christmas.

The bring and share buffet was fantastic. We had a range of dishes, many home made including Barbara Humm’s home made mince pies, Pasta salad, Barbecue chicken wings, special friend rice and Cheese Puffs (The recipe can be found below and is very east to make. They can be made in advance and frozen and cooked straight from the freezer).

We take on board that it would have been good to have some music accompaniment to the socialising and we will bear this in mind for next year.

We hope all our members had a good and healthy Christmas and New Year.

 

 

A tour of gardens by Pauline Martindale, October's meeting

 

The bad news was that our booked speaker went down with Flu. This was disappointing as it was the fourth time this year that a booked speaker had to cancel at short notice. The good news was that a friend of the club kindly offered to take over at the last minute. Pauline Martindale gave us a wonderful talk titled ‘A tour of Gardens’. The talk and accompanying slide show were all about gardens we can or may have visited. Some we have been to on our previous outings, others are just too far to reach on a day trip and one or two are no longer open to visitors. The photos were fantastic photography and all taken by Pauline herself.

The gardens featured included the RHS gardens at Hyde Hall, Essex which is where we went on our September club outing this year. The RHS Harlow Carr garden in Yorkshire which has a wonderful stream running through it. Pashley Manor Gardens on the Kent/Sussex borders. Our club has visited them twice before for the Tulip festival they hold each year. Apparently Ann Boleyn had connections here. Pauline told us that their wisteria is a site to behold if you are there at the right time. Kew gardens was also featured. Many of you have probably visited at some time. It is famous for its glass houses replicating the conditions of tropical areas of the world so plants that would only grow in those conditions can be seen here.

Some gardens nearer to us that were featured are Copped Hall at Epping. It opens on selected Sunday’s for various events and has a great walled garden. You can also visit the house that they are rebuilding which Henry the eighth owned at one time before it was burnt down in a devastating fire. There is also Wanstead Park to see the bluebells.

Pauline also told us about gardens in prisons. Pauline was formerly a prison officer. Lord Windlesham worked with the RHS to develop a trophy for the best kept prison garden which encouraged prisoners to do more than sit in their cells. And Pauline told us about the history of the Giggly Pig sausage company based in Romford. The woman who founded this company was serving a 10 year prison sentence but became interested in the gardening and Pig farming at the prison. When she left prison she set up the Giggly Pig company.

Our sincere thanks to Pauline for a wonderful talk.

 

 

Paolo from Franchi Seed Company, June's meeting

In June we had a guest speaker Paolo from Franchi Seed Company (Pronounced Frankey).  It is the family business of Paolo from Italy.  The company specializes in heritage seeds, particularly vegetable seeds but some ornamentals too.

Paolo gave us some history of seed production.  It was the Romans who first brought seeds to the UK and gave us a greater variety of plants.  Apparently the word ‘allotment’ is a Roman measurement.  In 1917 the government encouraged vegetable growing and when the Spanish Flu outbreak happened many people survived because they have fresh veg.  In the second world war our government had the ‘Did for Victory’ campaign once again to give the people fresh vegetables.  And during the recent Covid outbreak, allotments were one of the few places that people were still allowed to visit.

Paolo explained that people think that Italy is hot, but where his family are from is in North Italy where there are mountains and the climate is much like the UK.  He told us that Italy is the largest producer or rice which surprises many people.

Paolo also told us about the difficulties of importing seeds.  Covid had first interrupted the production and then the UK’s exit from the EU means it is very difficult for the seed companies to import seeds as there are a lot of restrictions and regulations and if they get one thing wrong the whole lot are incinerated.  He told us that all the companies you may have bought seeds from Thompson & Morgan, Mr Fothergills etc. all import their seeds. There are no companies in the UK producing their own seeds.

He finished with a few tips.  Now is the time you can plant basil direct into the soil.  It likes a warm humid condition.  Lambs lettuce wants cold, sew it when you take your tomatoes out.  Seeds have varying shelf life e.g. Tomatoes will last 10 years while parsnips deteriorate quickly.  Store your seeds in a cool, dry and dark place.

And finally a saying ‘before you look down, look up’ meaning before you look what is growing, look up and see what the weather is doing.

 

 

AGM November's meeting

 

Our November meeting was our annual AGM. The committee presented the approved accounts and a report from the chair on the past year’s ups and downs for the club. We were please to see many of our members attend the meeting. The full minutes of the meeting with be produced in due course.

The main issue facing the club was the reduction in membership and the reduced numbers of people who attend the meetings. This means that the club does not raise the funds that it needs to keep the club going but also that it means running outings or having the Christmas socials are not viable because there is not enough participation.

We had a very good discussion and the members attending the meeting were very keen to keep the club going. We discussed whether the time or day of the meetings should be changed. The committee is now tasked with conducting further research to see what viable options are and what the implications of those might be. We had lots of ideas put forward for trying to advertise the club to attract new members. If anyone has ideas or any contacts who they think could help to promote the club then please send them to the clubs. Email address: whittinghamgardeningclub@gmail.com

As the members had decided we should try and keep the club going the committee were re-elected. There were no new members who wanted to join the committee this year and all the existing members accepted to continue in their roles. You will find details at the end of this newsletter

 

 

Trees of Kew, Alan Clark, September's meeting

 Alan Clark, an extreme allotment gardener (he has 9 allotments), kindly filled in at the last
moment replacing Andy Sands who fell ill. He has over 50 years’ experience of gardening.
His subject was ‘Trees of Kew’ talking about some of his favourite trees that he had known at
Kew Gardens over many years. Taking us on a walk around the gardens his amusing
comparisons and anecdotes were a helpful way to ensure his audience might remember
some of the facts. ‘Defining a tree by size is similar to horses and ponies’ – how many
hands are involved? All plants are selfish. The definition of a tree: it has to have a woody
stem and achieve a height of 5 metres. He described how ancient trees are using the
example of the Wollemi Pine, a 270 million years old fossil – the mineralised leaf of this pine.
One of the interesting points he explained was the various fungi and bugs that drink the sap
or use the trees as hosts and may eventually kill them and that Kew’s policy is to let nature
take its course and only occasionally remove a branch or part of a tree that is suffering.
Thinking about this it is obvious that Kew would have very few mature trees if they were all
chopped down once infected! Nature will always try and rebalance the environment,
starlings and blue tits both have their part to play in removing insects and caterpillars. He
talked about trees complicated reproduction cycles and that clouds of pollen are expensive
for a tree, it takes a lot of their energy.
He specifically mentioned the Japanese garden and Minka House. Meaning ‘houses of the
people’, ‘minka’ describes the simple homes of country-dwellers common in Japan until the
mid-20th century. A treasured feature of Japanese heritage, many of these farmhouses
have been preserved as historic landmarks. Kew’s minka belonged to the Yonezu family,
who lived in it after their main house was bombed in 1945. Bushes of the sacred bamboo
(Nandina domestica ‘firepower’) are planted around the entrance, believed to dispel bad
dreams.
After the last of the family died, the house was donated to Kew by the Japan Minka Reuse
and Recycle Association as part of the Japan 2001 Festival. It was rebuilt by a team of
Japanese carpenters and British builders, some of whom had worked on the Globe Theatre
– creating an unsung architectural gem in the heart of London.
One last fascinating fact was the stone pine, which had been in the Gardens since 1846 and
fell over in 2022, and there are now new seedlings being grown from a cone of the tree.

 

 

Asters by Jacqueline Aviolet, August's meeting

 Our speaker in August was Jacqueline Aviolet on her specialist topic of Asters. Jacqueline
was a return speaker; she has been to us before and always gives a very lively, enjoyable
and fun presentation. She also brought many varieties for us to purchase for the bargain
price of £2.
Jacqueline told us that in the fashion to rename plants these are now officially called
Symphyotrichum but we will probably stick to calling them Asters. Who is going to
remember all these new complicated names? The common name is Michaelmas daisy and
this is because they will be in flower on Michaelmas day, 29th September. If anyone is ever
visiting the Malvern area in late summer there is a specialist nursery and gardens called the
Picton Gardens that is worth a visit.
An interesting little fact is that you can tell if the bees have visited the flower because the
centre is yellow until the bee has been in for its pollen and then turns mauve. This way the
bees know whether the pollen has already been taken by another bee. They can all be
used to make dye, which will be a shade of yellow.
Jacqueline said she doesn’t follow Monty’s advice on giving them the Chelsea chop (where
you cut the growing stems down by half in May) largely because she wants the cuttings. I
do give mine the Chelsea chop it makes them slightly stronger, thicker and shorter which I
like, but it’s up to you. Her other growing tips are to keep them well watered and put mulch
or fallen leaves in the Autumn as they prefer a bit of moisture. They like a neutral to acid
soil. The biggest problem with them is mildew, but this is apparently to stop the animals
eating them. They can also get a mite, which disfigures them and will spread to
strawberries, and Aster wilt in which case you need to destroy, preferably by burning and
not putting on the compost heap. With the larger headed versions, you may need to give
them some staking or they may fall over.
Jacqueline showed us all how to take cuttings and gave everyone a cutting to take home to
test our green fingers! We will have to see how successful members were in due course.

 

 

Copped Hall Trust by Philip McKinder, July's meeting

 

Our speaker at our July Meeting was Philip McKinder from Copped Hall Trust in Epping. Copped Hall is an old mansion house which is being rebuilt by the trust and has extensive gardens including a very beautiful walled garden. The restoration started in 1995. You can visit Copped Hall on various Sundays. See their website for details https://www.coppedhalltrust.org.uk/

Philip gave us a talk about the history of the site. Henry II had wanted a hunting lodge which was accessible to London. The abbots at Waltham Abbey had bought Copped Hall to allow them to entertain royalty. Henry VIII persuaded the abbots to gift him the property on his promise that he would protect Waltham Abbey. Having obtained the property, Henry went back on his promise and demolished most of the Abbey. Henry never lived at Copped Hall but visited and eventually gave it to his daughter Mary. Mary passed on the Hall to her lover who sold it to the Conyer family.

The Conyers son inherited the property from his father and built a new house on the site in the ‘palladian’ style (famous for its stately symmetry, classical elements, and grand appearance). He dismantled the Victorian house and used the bricks etc. to build the new house to save on costs. The Conyers lived there for 3 generations. The property was sold on and continuously improved and developed.

Then in 1917 tragedy struck. Many of the men had gone to war when an electrical fire broke out in the property. There was no fire engine that could get to the property and so the servants just tried to save whatever contents they could. The house was severely damaged and was never rebuilt. The gardens were maintained but the property was ransacked. The territorial army used the grounds for exercise and blew up most of what remained of the property for practice.

When the M25 was built Copped Hall was spotted as it sits on the ridge of a hill and many people wanted to purchase it to build on. But the community wanted it saved and this is how the Copped Hall Trust came to be. They raised the money with donations to purchase the site and so the restoration began.

 

 

Extra event, a Plant Sale, 1 Windsor Avenue, Walthamstow.

 

ROOTS AND SHOOTS GARDENING CLUB

PLANT SALE

Friday 22 June 2024

12 noon until 2.00pm

at

1 Windsor Avenue

Walthamstow

E17 5NL

 

 

Quiz organised by Chris, May's meeting

At our May meeting Guy Deakins was due to give us a talk entitled ‘Schrodingers Garden’ on the topic of how gardens can enhance our mental and physical wellbeing. Unfortunately Guy had to cancel his attendance with only a few hours notice as a member of his family was taken ill. We hope that the family member has now recovered. We will hope to rebook Guy for a future meeting as his talk is something we can all relate to. This is the first time that we have not had a speaker at a meeting. On the rare occasions when a speaker has cancelled previously we have always managed to get a stand in at short notice.

We had a plan B, to use one of the recorded talks that we can use from our membership of the Tendershoots gardening club. Unfortunately we discovered that our projector disables the sound of the talks so we would only have been able to view the pictures. The committee are looking into this to see if we are able to resolve this, should we be in this situation again.

And so we had to turn to plan C. We are very grateful to Chris who organized and facilitated a quiz with both general knowledge and plant related question. We formed groups and had fun discussing our answers. And of course we still had our break for refreshments and chatting. We thank all our members for their patience and to Francis for trying to help us with the technology.

Sir Frederick Gibberd his garden at Harlow, April's meeting

At our April Meeting Cherith Lowry gave us a wonderful talk about Sir Frederick Gibberd who owned and designed the Gibberd Garden in Harlow. The garden is open to the public from April to the Autumn on Wednesday and Sunday afternoon’s and sometimes by special arrangement. It is famous for its many sculptures of which we saw many pictures.

Frederick Gibberd was born in Coventry and trained as an Architect. He Married Dorothea and set up his businesses in London. We saw pictures of the many properties he designed, mainly blocks and estates of flats. He became known as the ‘flats architect’ a title he disliked. But he also designed commercial properties including terminal 1, 2 & 3 of Heathrow Airport, Coutts bank in London, Liverpool Cathedral, London Central Mosque in Hyde Park, Orwell Bridge in Suffolk.

In 1946 the Government was commissioning new Towns to be built to accommodate the growing number of people from London. Originally Sir Gibberd was going to be master planner for Hemel Hempstead but lost out to another better known architect and was instead given Harlow. At the time Harlow was lots of little hamlets. The M11 motorway was planned to go up the west side of these Hamlets and so Sir Gibberd designed the area for all the industrial areas to be on the West near the motorway. Unfortunately the M11 was repositioned and runs up the East side so all the traffic has to leave the motorway and cross Harlow. The first residents were moved from London to Harlow in 1949. People from Tottenham were moved out to Harlow.

In 1956 Sir Gibberds Architect business was going well, he had 2 practices with employees and he only had to work 2 days a week. So Sir Gibberd turned his attention to his interest of designing a garden. He found a property in Harlow with land. He had originally intended to demolish the house and rebuild it, but the Council wouldn’t allow this so he designed the garden around the existing house. The garden in fact faces north, on a downward slope and on heavy clay. He put in 2 ponds and a waterfall but the garden is prone to floods.

When Sir Gibberd died he left his house and Garden to the Town but his family contested the will and after 10 years of court battles the judge ordered the property to be sold. Many of the paintings and sculptures but the Gibberd Garden Trust was formed and managed to raise the funds to purchase the property with the help of the National Lottery. It is maintained now with volunteer gardeners aged 60 to 98 and opens to the public to visit.

We may arrange a visit to the garden in due course for our members.